JameS
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Post by JameS on Aug 25, 2004 12:26:13 GMT
I just bought myself a tin and boston glass for it, not that i actually make cocktails at home but ya know, its cool just incase i do!
Anyway, i got the tin mainly to learn the tricks, i have however found they are quick clumsy to work with. Now the tin obviously isnt a weighted one.. is this the reason or am i just not used to handling one yet?
I am getting better at my behing the back passes with them which yesterday were terrible to say the least! but it still feels very easy to lose the tin.. comments?
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Post by Gidwick on Aug 25, 2004 15:53:19 GMT
To be honest, some prefer weighted and some standard, its a matter of preference, i use weighted by the way!
When you first start handling tins, they do seem awkward, but get the basics down like, palm spins, thumbrolls and flips and you will soon become a natural!
The good things about tins is that you can practice the basics whenever you have a hand free, soon it will become second nature to ya!
Cheers
Russ
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Post by Gidwick on Aug 25, 2004 16:05:19 GMT
To be honest, some prefer weighted and some standard, its a matter of preference, i use weighted by the way!
When you first start handling tins, they do seem awkward, but get the basics down like, palm spins, thumbrolls and flips and you will soon become a natural!
The good things about tins is that you can practice the basics whenever you have a hand free, soon it will become second nature to ya!
Cheers
Russ
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Post by MrsNET on Aug 25, 2004 17:02:50 GMT
The big problem I have with tins is that they get slippery, some say slimey, once they're wet. How do you combat this? Apart from stopping every couple of seconds to rinse. Or do you simply not attempt any tossing or spinning until they're clean again? I think they should have a scored tin that when wet won't slip out of your hand. Just a thought -- CN
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Post by Todzilla on Aug 25, 2004 23:32:20 GMT
I have non-weighted tins currently. I'll soon be purchasing a weighted one to compare the two. They are quite akward at first, but you'll get used to 'em. When I first started learning how to flair, I would have a bottle or tin in my hands at nearly all times....flipping, spinning, just getting used to the feel of them. Practice with it while you're watching TV is easy to do. As far as slipping tins are concerned....I wrap mine with colored tape which helps a great deal, and distinguishes yours from others if you have other peoples tins around....
Cheers!
Todd
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Post by Gidwick on Aug 25, 2004 23:39:41 GMT
Never used or held one myself, but maybe the vinyl covered tines may cure this?
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Post by SideKickRick on Aug 26, 2004 1:18:15 GMT
At work I always use these Absolut Fruitini shakers which are an absolute dream to handle cos they're quite nice and big and sturdy. They're not weighted at the bottom or anything but are quite hefty as it is, as the metal is quite thick so adds quite a lot of weight.
Best way I find to combat slippery shakers is that once you've rinsed it and what not, just grab a napkin off of the bar and give it a real quick dry it only takes a few seconds but you're ready to rock and roll again staight away, this may help, I dunno!
Rick.
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Post by Todzilla on Aug 26, 2004 8:13:18 GMT
Never used or held one myself, but maybe the vinyl covered tines may cure this? That's what I use mostly....me likey! Those are like....semi-weighted. Sometimes a little too much grip though  Cheers Todd |
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JameS
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Post by JameS on Aug 26, 2004 13:19:04 GMT
thanks for the info guys.. yeh i noticed once you start bringing liquid and the like into the equation flair becomes a little, lets say, different! ;D but i seem to be picking up my tin moves a bit better now.. it doesnt help that im practising in my room which although isnt tiny... has an annoying lightbulb placememnt and lots of expensive stuff surrounding it! Parents off away in a weeks time so ill be flairing in the openess of their room!  Anyway thanks again.. keep the tips comin! |
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Post by MrsNET on Aug 26, 2004 18:56:27 GMT
Toddzilla RE: Slipping tins......We all share the same tins at work  wich really sucks because my coworkers dont set them back where they go nor do they empty the strained ice out!  and watch out if someone made a cream drink because not only are the tins not getting rinsed but they're slippery and the jiggers usally have Irish cream still in them WTF? ( I guess they don't give the whole 1 1/4 jigger yet they fill it??) Don't ask me! So I guess I've answered my own question until I can keep seperately my own set of tins. Oh how I yearn to be trusted to free pour. So is that another TGIF perk? Your own tins? Sounds better and better everyday. |
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Post by Todzilla on Aug 26, 2004 21:51:19 GMT
Toddzilla RE: Slipping tins......We all share the same tins at work wich really sucks because my coworkers dont set them back where they go nor do they empty the strained ice out! and watch out if someone made a cream drink because not only are the tins not getting rinsed but they're slippery and the jiggers usally have Irish cream still in them WTF? ( I guess they don't give the whole 1 1/4 jigger yet they fill it??) Don't ask me! So I guess I've answered my own question until I can keep seperately my own set of tins. Oh how I yearn to be trusted to free pour. So is that another TGIF perk? Your own tins? Sounds better and better everyday. We have tins provided for us, but I then have my own which I bring in as well. I wrapped ALL the tins with colored tape to help with grip (and they look better). When I work service bar, I normally just use their tins, but when I'm up front (which I almost always am), I got all my own setup. You need to go to Friday's, girl. You are a girl, right? I gathered that I think. Cheers. Todd |
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Post by Side Show Bob (ex PornStar) on Aug 27, 2004 2:03:58 GMT
I have a large set of steel tins for flairing, taped them for grip and to identify them. Ive also got some of the Mako Vinyl shakers, does any one else find that when wet you can stick two together?? weird
I find it better to flair with the vinyl ones as they tend not to make as much noise when I lose one. Ive considered stuffing one with a kitchen towel to kill the noise and add some weight.
Just my thoughts.....
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Post by Gergo Csallo on Sept 22, 2004 17:33:14 GMT
I have a weighted and 2 vinyl covered standard tins. For flair, I use the weighted one most of the time, but sometimes I just change for the vinyl tin for the extra grip (bottle on tin stall, handrolls to neck, etc...). I think, if you practice with both type, you will get used to both, and just picking one up, spinning and flipping it a couple of times will "get you change" to that tin type (weighted - standard; vinyl - metal). I personally dont like the plastic tape, as if I was a customer (patron, okay  ), I would taste the drink coming out of that "torn apart, plastic tape covered thing"Probably just me being too snobby about it.. The way I actually do it, is that one of my vinyl tins is only for drinks (at home and at work), the others are for flair, and I rarely make drinks with it at the bar. PS: "There is no bad juggling equipment, only a badly trained juggler" PS2: Same goes for flair, I bet. |
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Post by freelivin91 on Jun 30, 2005 1:43:31 GMT
I work with both weighted and unweighted (though not with vinyl just yet), and i prefer the weighted. It just has a nicer feel, and it's easier to catch, in my mind. The unweighted has a tendency to "bounce" off my hand when I go to catch it - the weighted ones have less of a tendency towards that.
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Post by teabagman on Nov 9, 2006 23:40:10 GMT
im thinking of buyin a powercoated tin but i dont know how different they are to the normal metal ones? has anyone got em?
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wich really sucks because my coworkers dont set them back where they go nor do they empty the strained ice out! 
and watch out if someone made a cream drink because not only are the tins not getting rinsed but they're slippery and the jiggers usally have Irish cream still in them WTF? ( I guess they don't give the whole 1 1/4 jigger yet they fill it??) Don't ask me! So I guess I've answered my own question until I can keep seperately my own set of tins. Oh how I yearn to be trusted to free pour. So is that another TGIF perk? Your own tins? Sounds better and better everyday. 
), I would taste the drink coming out of that "torn apart, plastic tape covered thing"Probably just me being too snobby about it..