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Post by ArtOfFlair on Apr 8, 2005 7:42:22 GMT
"Around the world" or over shoulder to stall I guess...
But anyways, I was studying the clip in this site and I get the idea but seems like I'm having trouble making the bottle flip one full turn before stalling it on the backside of the hand. Everytime I flick my wrist it doesn't go over or goes over too far and I have to chase after it...any suggestions/tips/hints/clues/faqs?
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Post by Gidwick on Apr 8, 2005 11:55:04 GMT
When doing the over the shoulder or around the world, forget about the single flip, go straight for the double, I have always found this easier right from the start.
The action is all in the wrist too, when preparing for the throw 'chicken wing' your arm, i.e. push your elbow forward whilst flicking your wrist backwards, and it should be the momentum of the wrist flick that should give you the rotation to get the bottle over the shoulder, now just play about till you get the correct release point in order to clear the shoulder and throw the bottle to the front of the body ready for the catch or the stall!
make any sense?
Cheers
Russ
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Post by summieone on Apr 8, 2005 13:02:27 GMT
Yes stop throwing the bottle! You're going to hurt somebody and more likely yourself, throw a juggling or tennis ball to learn about the release and getting a feel for the move. Then go for the bottle. Also if you can stall normally it helps, now do a stall and flip it to another stall. Keep doing this. Now practice these two things indiviually without going for the move and once, you can do them, a around the world stall will be easy! D "Around the world" or over shoulder to stall I guess... But anyways, I was studying the clip in this site and I get the idea but seems like I'm having trouble making the bottle flip one full turn before stalling it on the backside of the hand. Everytime I flick my wrist it doesn't go over or goes over too far and I have to chase after it...any suggestions/tips/hints/clues/faqs?
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Post by ArtOfFlair on Apr 8, 2005 15:12:15 GMT
Oh~ ok so it's better off going for the double flip instead of single...
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Post by summieone on Apr 8, 2005 17:49:13 GMT
Oh~ ok so it's better off going for the double flip instead of single... ok seriously - single or double won't matter if you can't get the control right you need to get the right throw if you can't do this naturally with a bottle then do it with something that won't break the contents of your living room first! D
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Post by Side Show Bob (ex PornStar) on May 17, 2005 12:40:56 GMT
A great tip I got is to use your index finger, extend it straight down the bottle and give the bottle a push while you release, this should help guide the bottle and give it the rotation for spins.
Hope it helps Rob.L
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Post by rumrunner on Sept 11, 2005 14:11:03 GMT
Basic concept is the wrist is used more in the double toss but chicken wing arm in the single..if your over shooting the single you have too much wrist. For working flair a double single each in one hand at the same time to stall than pour in the tin is reall sweet. (r hand bottle left hand bottle, around the world to stall same time, aggressive pour in tin same time)
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Post by flair45 on Oct 14, 2006 13:12:17 GMT
i've now trained like 1 and a half hour on ATW, but dont seem to manage it in anyway I've been training with a tennisball mostly, but still cant get the move done I just cant get the right throw-armposition for this one, and giving the spin with the hand that should make the object make the move over your shoulder & little further is also a "dont know how"
I know there've been plenty of tips given here bout the ATW, but I read them all and still dont get a feeling of how it should be done (also watched the video here)
whats the perfect throw-armposition and whats the hand move which should get the bottle/ball going?
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Post by Side Show Bob (ex PornStar) on Oct 15, 2006 11:31:57 GMT
i'll fire up the camera later as Im having a few friends round for a garden party....
Will YouTube it with slow mo.
PS Ive seen and now developing ATW throws from both reverse and regular grip.
Speak Soon Ya'll
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Post by flair45 on Oct 27, 2006 20:57:15 GMT
cool can you post a link when its done?
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